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Post by AnotherAdventureFan on Mar 10, 2024 15:38:59 GMT -6
I have agree with you on the Sonic Adventure take, SA1 is much better than SA2. Also, frontiers is below average. I mean, its not terrible, but its not worth the price tag. And certain things really dissapointed me in the game. Im looking at you, outfit system. Sa2 tried to do quality over quantity, and even if it works like with The speed stage, treasur hunting stage have got confusing, and even if people dislikes shooting are kinda fun, when your the moon pisser... and maybe a hot take but: The lock on sound isn't that terrible, and even if like sa1, what i call rivals battles sucks, at least bosses actually requires skills to beat them faster, even tho not for all, like biolizard and i guess final hazard, and also egg golem, i know perfect chaos can be included and Beta, but sa2 have more, even if most of these are those typical gun mechs. And c'mon chao garden is WAY better. Note that im not trying to defend sa2 and say that it's better but trying to bring some points to make it a little bit fair, even if i have more fun on sa2, both games deserves to be respected for their good point, without ignoring their downsides.
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Post by CombineSoldier14 on Mar 12, 2024 17:57:32 GMT -6
-SA1 is the best 3D game and is much better than the shit storm that was SA2
-Sonic Mania is a tad bit overrated
-Sonic Unleashed on the 360 was horrible
-I don't like Sonic's sprite in 3&K
Oh boy, I'm gonna get nuked for this one
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Post by mrhedgehog1990 on Mar 12, 2024 20:06:45 GMT -6
-SA1 is the best 3D game and is much better than the shit storm that was SA2 -Sonic Mania is a tad bit overrated -Sonic Unleashed on the 360 was horrible -I don't like Sonic's sprite in 3&K Oh boy, I'm gonna get nuked for this one Sonic unleashed for the PS3 is as bad as the Xbox 360 performance wise
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Post by mrhedgehog1990 on Mar 12, 2024 20:17:26 GMT -6
Here's some new ones I have:
- The "Modern" classic sonic is terrible (what I mean is that classic sonic has the "Modern" chaos emeralds) - I'm not a fan of the whole "deep voices" in Sonic Frontiers - Sonic prime was good, then it wasn't - Sonic 2 sprites > Sonic 3 sprites - There is no good Sonic final boss
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Post by CombineSoldier14 on Mar 13, 2024 17:44:52 GMT -6
-SA1 is the best 3D game and is much better than the shit storm that was SA2 -Sonic Mania is a tad bit overrated -Sonic Unleashed on the 360 was horrible -I don't like Sonic's sprite in 3&K Oh boy, I'm gonna get nuked for this one Sonic unleashed for the PS3 is as bad as the Xbox 360 performance wise I'm talking about the game itself. Maybe I have a skill issue but Sonic Unleashed is one of the worst entries in the franchise gameplay wise
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Post by AnotherAdventureFan on Mar 15, 2024 11:12:39 GMT -6
-SA1 is the best 3D game and is much better than the shit storm that was SA2 -Sonic Mania is a tad bit overrated -Sonic Unleashed on the 360 was horrible -I don't like Sonic's sprite in 3&K Oh boy, I'm gonna get nuked for this one About SA1, you know There is more than Sonic?
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Post by AnotherAdventureFan on Mar 15, 2024 11:13:15 GMT -6
Sonic unleashed for the PS3 is as bad as the Xbox 360 performance wise I'm talking about the game itself. Maybe I have a skill issue but Sonic Unleashed is one of the worst entries in the franchise gameplay wise It's probably skill issue then.
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Post by AnotherAdventureFan on Mar 15, 2024 11:27:18 GMT -6
Another Hot take: The sadx models are one of the best models, and are better than the dreamcast ones.
Like seriously i feel like they need more love, i love how they are shaped and how they perfectly represent the charachters attitude, like really people complain about Sonic hot dog shoes, but honestly they look really cool, even in Yuji Uekawa's arts, Sonic had these kind of shoes.
About why they are better than the dreamcast ones: Honestly i like low poly models, but really they look ugly, especially Knuckles, his dreamcast models look super weird with those strange eyes and creepy mouth, while DX model represent his rough warrior look really well.
For Sonic, i honestly im fine with his dreamcast model, tho im tired of people how it represent Sonic aging, cuz honestly this argument sucks, this was never meant to be represent this, also Sorry but i gotta admit his shoes are a little weird. While his DX model really shows that smooth and stylish side of the charachter, and honestly i don't think the DC dark blue and pal beige matches that well compared to th more lighter dark blue and more tanned beige.
About tails, well i don't really like how pointy his DC model is, it's even more pointy than Sonic! While DX models makes him more round and contrast with Sonic.
About Amy, well idk, i prefer the DX smaller muzzle.
I do agree that the DX models do have some flaws: like some textures lookin like shit, or Some effects being absent, tho it's more the game's fault.
But overrall, i do think the DX models really desereves more love, cuz honestly, i love them and it's a shame they are in such a disgusting Port.
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Post by CombineSoldier14 on Mar 16, 2024 13:04:01 GMT -6
-SA1 is the best 3D game and is much better than the shit storm that was SA2 -Sonic Mania is a tad bit overrated -Sonic Unleashed on the 360 was horrible -I don't like Sonic's sprite in 3&K Oh boy, I'm gonna get nuked for this one About SA1, you know There is more than Sonic? Yes I played the whole game and it was all great except for big
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Post by CombineSoldier14 on Mar 16, 2024 13:05:35 GMT -6
Another Hot take: The sadx models are one of the best models, and are better than the dreamcast ones. Like seriously i feel like they need more love, i love how they are shaped and how they perfectly represent the charachters attitude, like really people complain about Sonic hot dog shoes, but honestly they look really cool, even in Yuji Uekawa's arts, Sonic had these kind of shoes. About why they are better than the dreamcast ones: Honestly i like low poly models, but really they look ugly, especially Knuckles, his dreamcast models look super weird with those strange eyes and creepy mouth, while DX model represent his rough warrior look really well. For Sonic, i honestly im fine with his dreamcast model, tho im tired of people how it represent Sonic aging, cuz honestly this argument sucks, this was never meant to be represent this, also Sorry but i gotta admit his shoes are a little weird. While his DX model really shows that smooth and stylish side of the charachter, and honestly i don't think the DC dark blue and pal beige matches that well compared to th more lighter dark blue and more tanned beige. About tails, well i don't really like how pointy his DC model is, it's even more pointy than Sonic! While DX models makes him more round and contrast with Sonic. About Amy, well idk, i prefer the DX smaller muzzle. I do agree that the DX models do have some flaws: like some textures lookin like shit, or Some effects being absent, tho it's more the game's fault. But overrall, i do think the DX models really desereves more love, cuz honestly, i love them and it's a shame they are in such a disgusting Port. I like the DX models but they don't really fit in with the rest of the game's art style and it causes hella clashing
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Post by rubberducky776 on Mar 21, 2024 7:41:54 GMT -6
Hot take
-Frontiers is actually fun, its only real problem comes from not letting it have time to cook. It's story is fine, but flawed, many good parts, but also a lot of dumb parts. the only 'BAD' part are cyberstages which really just look ugly to me, they use the same three looks and do nothing cool.
-The best part of sadx is the hub world, if it had the same level select as sa2 it would be on the same level.
-Mecha sonic is only cool becacuse of smbz, his desgin while cool, and him using the master emerald for a boss is new, but he lost to base form classic knuckles, but he's hyped up more than he actually is.
-Sonic 3 and knuckles is overrated. it's not bad, but it's backhalf is really boring and often and feel like drag to finish.
-Superstars is bad, it's co-op is terrible, it's skins are boring and do not have proper polish, Trip has no skins despite being a playable character, Fang had little to no sway in the story despite being his grand return. The emerald powers often suck more than anything, most are only useful in specific stages, others are op in comparison, the levels either feel alright, or feel like a fan project made by a teenager. the game is half baked and is only fun when your really, really bored, and I enjoyed the game.
-Modern sonic character and desgins just plain suck, characters look to simple in the worst ways, they have the same issue as people drawing the ppg, any animal character is just sonic with slight changes and even the sonic look terrible to start, the moment it got passed heros is the moment it truly started. it's not bad at first, but the moment you just look at sonic running, focus on it, he just looks wrong, like a person in an oversized costume.
-Amy's tarrot card's are not fun to see, she uses them more as an attack in frontiers than the hammer she's used for all her life. it feels like they were read off a wiki page as something she liked and are now being forced as a part of her personality
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Post by AnotherAdventureFan on Mar 24, 2024 11:49:06 GMT -6
Hot take -Frontiers is actually fun, its only real problem comes from not letting it have time to cook. It's story is fine, but flawed, many good parts, but also a lot of dumb parts. the only 'BAD' part are cyberstages which really just look ugly to me, they use the same three looks and do nothing cool. -The best part of sadx is the hub world, if it had the same level select as sa2 it would be on the same level. -Mecha sonic is only cool becacuse of smbz, his desgin while cool, and him using the master emerald for a boss is new, but he lost to base form classic knuckles, but he's hyped up more than he actually is. -Sonic 3 and knuckles is overrated. it's not bad, but it's backhalf is really boring and often and feel like drag to finish. -Superstars is bad, it's co-op is terrible, it's skins are boring and do not have proper polish, Trip has no skins despite being a playable character, Fang had little to no sway in the story despite being his grand return. The emerald powers often suck more than anything, most are only useful in specific stages, others are op in comparison, the levels either feel alright, or feel like a fan project made by a teenager. the game is half baked and is only fun when your really, really bored, and I enjoyed the game. -Modern sonic character and desgins just plain suck, characters look to simple in the worst ways, they have the same issue as people drawing the ppg, any animal character is just sonic with slight changes and even the sonic look terrible to start, the moment it got passed heros is the moment it truly started. it's not bad at first, but the moment you just look at sonic running, focus on it, he just looks wrong, like a person in an oversized costume. -Amy's tarrot card's are not fun to see, she uses them more as an attack in frontiers than the hammer she's used for all her life. it feels like they were read off a wiki page as something she liked and are now being forced as a part of her personality For the frontiers one: I like the story, like honestly it's better than the adventure ones, like really i don't know what people have with these stories, they are just stories, no bad, just stories that works and that's it. Tho i gotta admit, all those references are anoying. For the cyber space stage, yeah Sonic feels very slow AND almost every stage are copies of older game levels, like 2-6 is just sky rail. For the hub one: Sorry but the hub in sa1 don't works, they are poorly executed, like when you progress in story, you never get any indication about where you should go when a level is finished, the only time it actually happens is in Gamma story when he says the rest of the E- series is probably in the egg carrier. And the only actual way to know is to ask Tikal, which tottaly breaks the system and ruin the exploration. And honestly even if with fast charachters like Sonic or Tails, it's quite fun to traverse, with slow ass ones like Big or Amy, DAMM it's such a pain. Without mentioning the forest part of mystic ruins and those collisions who are dog sh!@. So yeah, in SA1 hub are poorly executed with absent indication and the only way to avoid this is being ignoring the principe of hub in this game, and the fact that some charachters moves slowly makes it a pain to travers. And im glad that this game didn't brought it back, cuz honestly it wouldn't had make any sense in a story like this one. And for the modern charachters: Im sorry but i clearly don't understand you. You say they look too simple, BUT BRO, SIMPLICITY IS THE BASE OF A SONIC CHARACHTER. Like really i love how they changed the charachters but still kept that simple design tho giving them this cool look, you say that any animal charachter is Sonic with slight changes... are u blind or somethin? Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Silver, Vector, Rouge, and i could go all others. Every Sonic charachters are different from each others and have their own vibes and look that makes them iconic, and that's what makes them stand out. Ok now that i told what i disagree, it's time for what i do agree: For Sonic 3: Yeah honestly my biggest issue with it is how it restrains the player, locking them in those contained areas, it truly breaks the feeling of freedom, and honsetly when you play sky sanctuare, which escape to this rule, you realize how fun it is without being restrained. I agree Mecha Sonic (Mk II) isn't that special, yeah he got a cool design, but let's be real, without SMBZ his chance of having a future would be lowered. And yeah superstars isn't that good, can't believe i wasted 60 euros for this... like i still remember the times i spend one Fang in golden capital... Tho the ost is good, even some of Jun Senoue one, tho it's not really that iconic, i still didn't finished the game, but after seeing a review of it, i really don't want to.
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Post by rubberducky776 on Mar 24, 2024 16:53:18 GMT -6
Hot take -Frontiers is actually fun, its only real problem comes from not letting it have time to cook. It's story is fine, but flawed, many good parts, but also a lot of dumb parts. the only 'BAD' part are cyberstages which really just look ugly to me, they use the same three looks and do nothing cool. -The best part of sadx is the hub world, if it had the same level select as sa2 it would be on the same level. -Mecha sonic is only cool becacuse of smbz, his desgin while cool, and him using the master emerald for a boss is new, but he lost to base form classic knuckles, but he's hyped up more than he actually is. -Sonic 3 and knuckles is overrated. it's not bad, but it's backhalf is really boring and often and feel like drag to finish. -Superstars is bad, it's co-op is terrible, it's skins are boring and do not have proper polish, Trip has no skins despite being a playable character, Fang had little to no sway in the story despite being his grand return. The emerald powers often suck more than anything, most are only useful in specific stages, others are op in comparison, the levels either feel alright, or feel like a fan project made by a teenager. the game is half baked and is only fun when your really, really bored, and I enjoyed the game. -Modern sonic character and desgins just plain suck, characters look to simple in the worst ways, they have the same issue as people drawing the ppg, any animal character is just sonic with slight changes and even the sonic look terrible to start, the moment it got passed heros is the moment it truly started. it's not bad at first, but the moment you just look at sonic running, focus on it, he just looks wrong, like a person in an oversized costume. -Amy's tarrot card's are not fun to see, she uses them more as an attack in frontiers than the hammer she's used for all her life. it feels like they were read off a wiki page as something she liked and are now being forced as a part of her personality For the frontiers one: I like the story, like honestly it's better than the adventure ones, like really i don't know what people have with these stories, they are just stories, no bad, just stories that works and that's it. Tho i gotta admit, all those references are anoying. For the cyber space stage, yeah Sonic feels very slow AND almost every stage are copies of older game levels, like 2-6 is just sky rail. For the hub one: Sorry but the hub in sa1 don't works, they are poorly executed, like when you progress in story, you never get any indication about where you should go when a level is finished, the only time it actually happens is in Gamma story when he says the rest of the E- series is probably in the egg carrier. And the only actual way to know is to ask Tikal, which tottaly breaks the system and ruin the exploration. And honestly even if with fast charachters like Sonic or Tails, it's quite fun to traverse, with slow ass ones like Big or Amy, DAMM it's such a pain. Without mentioning the forest part of mystic ruins and those collisions who are dog sh!@. So yeah, in SA1 hub are poorly executed with absent indication and the only way to avoid this is being ignoring the principe of hub in this game, and the fact that some charachters moves slowly makes it a pain to travers. And im glad that this game didn't brought it back, cuz honestly it wouldn't had make any sense in a story like this one. And for the modern charachters: Im sorry but i clearly don't understand you. You say they look too simple, BUT BRO, SIMPLICITY IS THE BASE OF A SONIC CHARACHTER. Like really i love how they changed the charachters but still kept that simple design tho giving them this cool look, you say that any animal charachter is Sonic with slight changes... are u blind or somethin? Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Shadow, Silver, Vector, Rouge, and i could go all others. Every Sonic charachters are different from each others and have their own vibes and look that makes them iconic, and that's what makes them stand out. Ok now that i told what i disagree, it's time for what i do agree: For Sonic 3: Yeah honestly my biggest issue with it is how it restrains the player, locking them in those contained areas, it truly breaks the feeling of freedom, and honsetly when you play sky sanctuare, which escape to this rule, you realize how fun it is without being restrained. I agree Mecha Sonic (Mk II) isn't that special, yeah he got a cool design, but let's be real, without SMBZ his chance of having a future would be lowered. And yeah superstars isn't that good, can't believe i wasted 60 euros for this... like i still remember the times i spend one Fang in golden capital... Tho the ost is good, even some of Jun Senoue one, tho it's not really that iconic, i still didn't finished the game, but after seeing a review of it, i really don't want to. There are points where I really like the story, I think the ended is done really well on both ends, it makes jokes, but ends or a serious note with Eggman and I really like that. I think I the game had more time to flesh out things like the refrences, cause I like exploring, but I had being stopped to hear about how this reminds sonic of this damn level or that damn thing. I enjoy the hub from it being odd, I like the exploration of it, but yea I agree it is annoying and poorly done, my first time playing I got stuck cause I didn't know where to go, but I honestly like walking around even as big, his slow speed was never a problem to be because the game can be fast, but it's not too fast, like frontiers you can feel slow because of how big the map is, but in sadx, it's smaller so I could take the slow movement. I wish it would be brought back at least in a similar way to generations as I think at least as a concept moving from zone to zone and seeing how you get there could be cool. really just something to make the level selection feel a bit more cool, even it's something small. When I say simple I mean that the characters are too close in design my best point to that is espio, classic has a clear shape and is a bulky sonic in a lot of ways, but how you make the shape is different. Modern sonic and Epsio have the same body and to me that's a bit annoying, I don't think the design are all the same one by one but I do think sega fails at making slight differences with the modern ones, like my comparison to the ppg thing, of course, does not apply to someone like Vector, but most characters has the same body, with the differences coming from their head and what they wear and even then the muzzles the same, like classic knuckles had a long snout, now it's short like amy, he's knuckles sure, but he's missing those simple things that added to the desgin, and maybe it just comes from the renders because they really don't show the best of sonic, and I do still like some characters desgins in morden, but that comes from the character breaking that mold like vector or eggman, I like them because they have that, but I struggle to like modern espio because I look at his body and think of sonic. Same thing with sky sanctuary, I love playing with characters like extra life or ray because, it lets me just negate or see how far I can go without meeting mecha sonic. Pre-ordered, digital deluxe, 100% the game. I really wish they put a bit more into it because it had something.
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Post by mrhedgehog1990 on Mar 24, 2024 20:42:21 GMT -6
Hot take -Frontiers is actually fun, its only real problem comes from not letting it have time to cook. It's story is fine, but flawed, many good parts, but also a lot of dumb parts. the only 'BAD' part are cyberstages which really just look ugly to me, they use the same three looks and do nothing cool. -The best part of sadx is the hub world, if it had the same level select as sa2 it would be on the same level. -Mecha sonic is only cool becacuse of smbz, his desgin while cool, and him using the master emerald for a boss is new, but he lost to base form classic knuckles, but he's hyped up more than he actually is. -Sonic 3 and knuckles is overrated. it's not bad, but it's backhalf is really boring and often and feel like drag to finish. -Superstars is bad, it's co-op is terrible, it's skins are boring and do not have proper polish, Trip has no skins despite being a playable character, Fang had little to no sway in the story despite being his grand return. The emerald powers often suck more than anything, most are only useful in specific stages, others are op in comparison, the levels either feel alright, or feel like a fan project made by a teenager. the game is half baked and is only fun when your really, really bored, and I enjoyed the game. -Modern sonic character and desgins just plain suck, characters look to simple in the worst ways, they have the same issue as people drawing the ppg, any animal character is just sonic with slight changes and even the sonic look terrible to start, the moment it got passed heros is the moment it truly started. it's not bad at first, but the moment you just look at sonic running, focus on it, he just looks wrong, like a person in an oversized costume. -Amy's tarrot card's are not fun to see, she uses them more as an attack in frontiers than the hammer she's used for all her life. it feels like they were read off a wiki page as something she liked and are now being forced as a part of her personality Dude, Cyberspace is literally one of the only good parts of the game. I also really like the difficulty of them in the 3rd free update.
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Post by rubberducky776 on Mar 25, 2024 10:47:09 GMT -6
Hot take -Frontiers is actually fun, its only real problem comes from not letting it have time to cook. It's story is fine, but flawed, many good parts, but also a lot of dumb parts. the only 'BAD' part are cyberstages which really just look ugly to me, they use the same three looks and do nothing cool. -The best part of sadx is the hub world, if it had the same level select as sa2 it would be on the same level. -Mecha sonic is only cool becacuse of smbz, his desgin while cool, and him using the master emerald for a boss is new, but he lost to base form classic knuckles, but he's hyped up more than he actually is. -Sonic 3 and knuckles is overrated. it's not bad, but it's backhalf is really boring and often and feel like drag to finish. -Superstars is bad, it's co-op is terrible, it's skins are boring and do not have proper polish, Trip has no skins despite being a playable character, Fang had little to no sway in the story despite being his grand return. The emerald powers often suck more than anything, most are only useful in specific stages, others are op in comparison, the levels either feel alright, or feel like a fan project made by a teenager. the game is half baked and is only fun when your really, really bored, and I enjoyed the game. -Modern sonic character and desgins just plain suck, characters look to simple in the worst ways, they have the same issue as people drawing the ppg, any animal character is just sonic with slight changes and even the sonic look terrible to start, the moment it got passed heros is the moment it truly started. it's not bad at first, but the moment you just look at sonic running, focus on it, he just looks wrong, like a person in an oversized costume. -Amy's tarrot card's are not fun to see, she uses them more as an attack in frontiers than the hammer she's used for all her life. it feels like they were read off a wiki page as something she liked and are now being forced as a part of her personality Dude, Cyberspace is literally one of the only good parts of the game. I also really like the difficulty of them in the 3rd free update. Personally I enjoy the open world more, the cyberspace is boring to me, If I wanted to replay those levels I'd just play those games, they're not build for frontiers and I can feel the diffrence, not to mention they look bland as hell. However I will agree that the update three stages are fun, but that really just comes from the fact that they feel like they were made for the game, they are a real challenge, and they're fun
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